XXVermillion 11 years ago #4. Yes, as acun1994 has said, make sure to approach Granny Rags during the High Overseer Campbell mission. Low chaos - These men are just doing their jobs and Corvo doesn't want to look guilty and murderous. Granny Rags will also appear during the mission House of Pleasure near the V. No, I don't think side quests and survivors effect any of the non-alert achievements. Quickly unlock the door and enter the room to avoid being detected. Looted the place and grabbed Granny's cameo, stole Granny's key, burned her cameo, freed Slackjaw (just to give him a chance against Granny, I kinda liked the guy), and while those two were fighting I booked it out the back stopping to grab the. Slackjaw and Granny - In Dishonored: the Corroded Man Corvo seeks the help of Slackjaw, now known as Azariah Fillmore, and they reminisce on Corvo saving him from being cooked by Granny Rags. I've already messed this playthough up a bit by helping her with the two initial missions. I've tried stealing Granny's key, releasing Slackjaw, hiding and waiting for Slackjaw to kill her (he never seems to be able to, even when I burn the cameo). "Save" both is there a non lethal way to make sure both survive? i cant sleepdart her and would like to free slackjaw if i can. #5. She will then leave a rune inside her shack. As you leave, weepers attack the thugs only if you poisoned the still (maybe if your chaos is high too). Getting the opportunity to kill her was more than enough of a reward. Granny Rags will be in her new "home" in the understreet ravine populated by Weepers. It seems I just can't unlock the "Ghost" achievement. Te dice que puedes llevarte sus pertenencias, pero que le dejes los huesos a. You can then enter near where Granny Rags is at, Stop Time, steal the key from Granny Rags and bail before Stop Time ends. < > Showing 16-21 of 21 comments . Still counts as a kill. Thanks! Showing 1 - 2 of 2 comments. She can still be defeated with the methods described above, but it will not grant a special action. I believe you're talking about the Granny/Slackjaw confrontation in mission 7. It doesn't count as a kill and doesn't mess up any trophies. In my first playthrough, I forgot to revisit Granny rags after dealing with her "Gentleman Callers", both missing out on that run AND discontinuing her quest line for that mission, yet I still met her and Slackjaw in the end. It is in this office that the elixir still is placed. Burn cameo in furnace, hide immediately, granny teleports to her room, but she's blind so don't make sound. Help Granny cook Slackjaw in mission 7. In order for Granny Rags to be killed or rendered unconscious, her cameo must be destroyed. Granny Rags will provide you with several runes. Apparently the main gate in the sewers is supposed to be locked and there's meant to be a civ that directs you down a passage where Slackjaw and Granny Rags (?) are located. cyberwiz97. Slackjaw question. You have to do Slackjaws missions, expecially if you want Clean Hands since he helps you get rid of your targets non-lethally. Falthin 11 years ago #1. Schematics _____ Mission one- None Mission Two- (2x) Help Griff From the thugs Mission Three- None Mission Four- 1x Near the. Exit through cut in floor. Shoot Slackjaw with a sleep dart. Corvo must obtain a plague rat viscera from Dr. admin. All you have to do is stop them, so it is possible to do it non-lethally with sleep-darts and such. Impossible stealth on Flooded District. As an alternate/fun way to deal with the Granny/Slackjaw confrontation. Crowley grew up in the streets of Dunwall, running with others of his ilk, avoiding the law and stealing whatever he needed to survive. The dialog at the bunkhouse area is based on your overall chaos level at that point. She just explodes into rats (you read that right) and the rats try to eat you. Once through, we have to get past a group of We. If You like itSubscribe - a fan on Facebook - seems I just can't unlock the "Ghost" achievement. Also the area with Granny Rags vs Slackjaw becomes completely blocked off and inaccessible, so there's no way to even get there. The Loyalists . whatever that is. Dishonored® Definitive EditionHelp Granny Rags by killing Slackjaw, Kill slackjaw, grab the key from Granny and then place Slackjaw in the boiling sludge. If you already killed Slackjaw, then you obviously could not get the quest to cook him later. After you’ve made your decision head up the stairs to the Furnace Room. Flooded District on high chaos with ghost. She can still be defeated with the methods described above, but it will not grant a special action. Slackjaw is found in Mission 3: House of Pleasure in his Distillery. You'll notice that the thugs are friendly now and they’ll let you know that their boss Slackjaw wants a. The Bottle Street Gang is a powerful criminal faction in Dunwall. Talk to granny and she will give a key. Harvey Smith's tweet several days ago confirmed that Granny Rags will still have some influence in Dishonored 2. I also remember guards or an in. SPOILER ALERT READ AT OWN RISK! Ok, so I completed the game with "Clean Hands" and "Mostly Flesh and Steel" Achievemnts but I failed "Ghost" because when I tried to pickpocket the Master Sewer Key from Granny Rags she always spots me. So i dont think it has anything to do with granny rags side missions that he didnt get the. It worked with sedating for @Smilodon, but. Old Port District. Pun not intended. Corvo will need the sewer master key, which is on Granny Rags, to open the door. I just did a Clean Hands play through and for some reason, I still haven't figured it out, I didn't even need to confront Granny Rags in the later stages of the game. . Once you get to the end, you will find Granny Rags and Slackaw. Hi. If you sleep-dart Slackjaw, it counts as a kill. Don't do any of the Granny Rags side-missions during the High Overseer Campbell mission, the sewer door will be unlocked in that later mission, bypassing Granny and Slackjaw, altogether. Moray was a wealthy aristocrat living in the high reaches of society who, after an ill-fated expedition to the. She disappears the second you nab the key, so you just have to hope she doesn't warp around anywhere where she'll see you. P exit. Doing slackjaw's sidequests won't hurt your playthrough :) Nothing happens other than both Granny and Slackjaw being dead. Jul 9, 2016 @ 2:21am Yes. So I did a second speedy playthrough to unlock Shadow. Based on Bottle Street, it recently won a bitter war with the Hatters Gang for control of the Distillery District. If Corvo kills all of the rats that can attack Slackjaw, Slackjaw will win. To get through the door, you need to get a key from Granny Rags or Slackjaw. It's not necessary to completely avoid Granny Rags to get the Clean Hands achievement, as none of her quests involve killing anyone. Help Granny Rags Kill Slackjaw - Dishonored Bethesda. First run I didn't know about the granny rags bug, 2nd run I tried to follow various instructions to get past/complete the granny rags scenario, one amongst them were using time stop and hide behind the door until the cameo explodes and then time stop. RUN before she materializes. But overall, the mission sets the tone perfectly and allows players to finally seek justice on the Empress's murderer, which is very cathartic. Granny Rags and Slackjaw - non lethal. soniccomkid 11 years ago #8. I do it all the time on high chaos runs; kill Granny to get the coins from Slackjaw, then kill Slackjaw just because I can. The game DOES count Granny Rags’s death against you if you let Slackjaw kill her. Dishonored (PS3) 1. There are two ways to settle the confrontation: either kill/incapacitate Granny Rags or kill Slackjaw. Low chaos – These men are just doing their jobs and Corvo doesn’t want to look guilty and murderous. So I beat the game with no kills at all, and no detection (I checked each mission's stats), but after I beat the game, I only got the Shadow…Slackjaw is the leader of a criminal gang that specializes in brewing and selling watered-down elixir to scalp desperate families and pick on locals who can't defend themselves, while Granny Rags is a murderous, cannibalistic, Axe-Crazy Humanoid Abomination that doesn't really think twice about spreading the plague to get what she wants. So I did a second speedy playthrough to unlock Shadow. I already did 2 consecutive playthroughs, in the first lenghty one the problem might have been the encounter with granny rags and slackjaw, where I poisoned her with a dart but as you might have heard there seems to be a bug there. You can't "kill" Granny permanently until the final confrontation with her. CryptoYou get a bunch of the gang members in the area as weepers in the next mission, and Slackjaw comments on it. 600 coins if assisting Slackjaw. Business, Economics, and Finance. This trophy can be earned by spending a lot time on your character. From what I was reading online, this has to do with the Granny Rags and Slackjaw side quest in Mission 7. You could run in, steal the key, and run away while hidden. Ok, so just to let people know, this has happened to me both times I've played through Dishonored. I am able to tranq Slackjaw, but dropping him in the fucked up stew counts as a kill. Are you ready to help get Slackjaw's bones? Granny has some. No, really). well i met up with Granny Rags and did her first quest and used sleep darts on the gang, now she wants me to poison the distillery with plague. Unless you kill Bottle Street Gang members and make them your enemy, nothing should prevent you from taking Slackjaw's quest to neutralize the Pendletons. Although if you get through to the last part of that side mission line with Granny Rags and Slackjaw, just bypass it, you can't complete that side quest line without losing Clean Hands. Is there a way to Non-Lethal Granny in this confrontation?During Mission 7 of Dishonored (Toil and Trouble part of the Flooded District), I show you a quick and cheap way to get the Ghost, Shadow, Clean Hands, and (. It seems I just can't unlock the "Ghost" achievement. After completing enough side-quests for Granny Rags and Slackjaw, you will get the key to a special route into the sewers. You can get past Granny Rags lair, but you need to be very precise with your sleepdarts and shoot her. I placed her body on a high surface. When entering the area, do not talk to either Granny Rags or Slackjaw. Corvo can choose to either confront Granny Rags and save Slackjaw, or help her prepare him. Or both, of course. It seems that this power is so strong that it's actually transitive. Stage one is about clearing quests and killing enemies. Granny Rags is there with SlackJaw. If you killed Slackjaw during the House of Pleasure mission you won't be able to save Slackjaw, and his body will appear instead. Note that if you dispose of it before. NocturnalQuill • 8 yr. Slackjaw simply has done a lot more harm. Talk to him and he will say. Art Dealer: In Granny Rags' room beneath the whale corpse - "The Outsider and the Circumscribed Void" (Ding! Achievement :) ). Does. Choose the option to cut up slackjaw. poisoning the bootleg elixir). ago. A "Games > Horror" fan-fiction story. Dishonored. Completing Granny Rags' quest during the previous assassination mission does not affect this one. She will then leave a rune inside her shack. Then ol' Slacky just dumped it into the sewers having spent his vengeance load and Paolo found out about it, snatched it up due to the Mark, eventually getting it preserved somewhere after experiencing the power it contained. In the second mission in the campaign "High Overseer Campell". In the end, it seems you may have just skimmed the surface. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. In the sewer where a group of survivors reside. ago. First time I did it, I destroyed the cameo and choked Granny, even though she was 'unconscious' it still considered me to have killed her. This dictates a few of Corvo's choices during Dishonored, chiefly his decision to rescue Slackjaw from Granny Rags in the. It will remain locked, if you don't. Same happened when trying to choke her. Galvani's lab to do so. However, Slackjaw hints that Corvo's true identity is known among the lower classes, stating that, "Word is all over the street," when he is encountered in Granny Rags's lair. Krisars • 7 yr. So I'm replaying dishonored, this time on Very Hard, trying for Ghost, Shadow & Clean Hands. And considering its said that Paolo has to be killed twice before sundown or he won't die during the Dust District mission, I'm thinking that the artifact that resurrects him. Still counts as a kill. We learn Granny Rags was the one interfering, fighting against the bottle street boys with creepy rat magic, once you get to the sewers and see that whole scene between. . Granny Rags will be in her new "home" in the understreet ravine populated by Weepers. She regards the plague as a joke. Killing Granny Rags and Slackjaw counts against you, just like any other human. Slackjaw question. Indeed. However, you need to interact with Slackjaw during the Pendletons mission to. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. New Optional Quest: Unlock Slackjaw . If you do anything for granny rags and slackjaw, you will end up in the sewers with them both but she doesnt kill him. Is there a way to Non-Lethal Granny in this confrontation?Is it better to help Granny or slackjaw? Though Granny Rags will become hostile when Bend Time ends, she will not detect Corvo if he is not within sight. I already did 2 consecutive playthroughs, in the first lenghty one the problem might have been the encounter with granny rags and slackjaw, where I poisoned her with a dart but as you might have heard there seems to be a bug there. Corvo can choose to either confront Granny Rags and save Slackjaw, or help her prepare him. I wasn't seen and still got the achievements. Slackjaw would mention that someone poisoned the elixir supply in the distillery, when you deal with him in a later mission. Take key off Granny. Talk to slackjaw, he'll tell you about her cameo. #7. If you defeat the granny without killing her you can free slackjaw and no one dies. After completing enough side-quests for Granny Rags and Slackjaw, you will get the key to a special route into the sewers. However, I feel like the SlackJaw/ Granny confrontation will mess up my hope of getting Clean Hands. Ch. The guide is just suggesting you ignore that part for convenience, i'm sure you can sort the slackjaw/granny rags situation out without anyone dying. It seems I just can't unlock the "Ghost" achievement. No, really). I did favours for them both and got the achievement. How to unlock Street Conspiracy. A fourth assassin can be encountered at the end of the mission on Endoria Street. If you do both of those, then the fight will happen in the sewers. Use the lever to the. This is because the last painting is missable if you don't meet and do missions for the characters Granny Rags (Mission 2) and Slackjaw (Mission 3). uhm. "Faster than Lightning", chapter 10 by batzulgerIt seems I just can't unlock the "Ghost" achievement. Meet Granny Rags, and help her with side-quests. The rune in the room after Granny Rags' kitchen is still there for the stealing. You can then leave the sewers whenever you want. In the Flooded District sewers, when you encounter Granny Rags preparing to cook Slackjaw, it seems like you cannot defeat her and save Slackjaw without either getting a kill or detected. Is there a way to Non-Lethal Granny in this confrontation?God ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ damnit. Granny Rags, Slackjaw, Emily, Samuel, Havelock, Martin, Pendleton and Piero all are seen in multiple missions. Or you could kill Granny Rags and let her be eaten by rats. 34. The authorities do not realize that Corvo and the Masked Felon are the same man. Is there a way to Non-Lethal Granny in this confrontation? Přihlášení Obchod Komunita. Granny Rags will be hostile when Bend Time comes to an end, but if Corvo isn’t within sight, she won’t be able to spot him. ViandanteFantasma • 2 yr. If Slackjaw was killed after completing his first side-quest during House of Pleasure, Granny Rags will still appear in the sewers with his corpse, and will let Corvo loot it for the sewer key without confronting him. Dishonored. Once you find Granny Rags and Slackjaw in the sewers, go up the stairs on either side of the room and you will find the painting, “The Outsider and the Circumscribed Void” in the small room there. Saving Slackjaw is the more rewarding option since he gives you coins if you save him. During the former, it is part of a side mission for Granny Rags, who has asked him to poison the elixir still. The issue is, it's canonical that Corvo fights and kills Granny Rags and befriends Slackjaw (according to Harvey Smith), but I also feel like he wouldn't willingly go spreading the plague without that piece of meta knowledge. I keep searching the web and I've tired every variant using both powers, items and nothing. 1) I took the non-lethal approach in neutralizing the High Overseer. So I've ended up causing more plague. WARNING - While this method will not give you any kills on the ending stats screen, it will make you fail the Clean Hands achievement. Here's what I did to get both achievements and not kill anyone: - Do Granny Rags' quest, get achievement, reload. So, I avoided Slackjaw and I looted Dr. High Chaos Important: In order to get Granny's final side mission, you MUST meet Slackjaw in Mission 3 and complete his missions. He can be spotted on the roof of the building next to Granny Rags' abandoned home. I've knocked rags out using darts AND chokeholds. You have to complete at least one task for both Granny Rags and Slackjaw to trigger the event. To what extent is yet to be known. The Whalers are just people trying to. Spoilers. Painting #11 - You did the Granny Rags and Slackjaw side missions right? Well once you enter the sewers you will see a Bottle Street Thug laying against the wall. Gentleman Caller is a hidden achievement/trophy in Dishonored. In theory, you could already leave the place already but, if you want to keep her company, act in accordance with Granny's wish, return to the dead Slackjaw and pull the lever on the left to release his corpse. I played through the entire game non-lethal, only to get to this section that is determined to force me to kill Granny Rags or Slackjaw (amazing game design, Zenimax. I usually rescue Slackjaw because he's real cool. The rune is in this encampment's ditch. If you destroy her cameo and then knock her out unconscious, it counts as a kill. I tried sleep darting her but she turned into rats. Is there a way. Only your conscious. Approach Granny and take the Dunwall sewer master key). When you reach her bedchambers, you could just leave, but that would end up with Slackjaw being killed by Granny Rags, so now you have to defeat Granny Rags. That Granny Rags event will only trigger if you do every side mission for both Granny Rags and Slackjaw, so there is no need to abort it half way through or even go back and load an earlier save. 5. Granny Rags’ Cameo, technically the Moray Cameo, is a mission item which is found in Granny Rags’ room during The Flooded District mission. When you're behind her, use Bend Time (hopefully you have Level 2 so time stops completely). She regards the plague as a joke. So, I'm at the point in the game where I've done all the missions, been poisoned,and gone through the "Flooded City" or whatever its called. X360. It seems I just can't unlock the "Ghost" achievement. The most effective way to kill Granny is by holding the Sleep Bolt, or even choking her. I've tried freezing time, taking Granny's key, then getting the f*** out of there. Bottlestreet isn’t supposed to be drinking it in the first place those who are weepers are only those who went behind slackjaw’s back, it’s meant for customers only. ReplyI've played almost 200 hours of this game and am now doing as close to a "canon" run as possible. Important: In order to get Slackjaw's final side mission, you MUST meet Granny Rags in Mission 2 and complete her missions. I heard there was a glitch there, more then likely patched by now. Granny Rags asks Corvo to poison Slackjaw's still as part of a side mission for her during High Overseer Campbell. I already did 2 consecutive playthroughs, in the first lenghty one the problem might have been the encounter with granny rags and slackjaw, where I poisoned her with a dart but as you might have heard there seems to be a bug there. Tallboys. Granny Rags and Slackjaw - non lethal. ago. You will get a key to an area during Mission 7. Does killing weepers increase chaos? Weepers do count for detection. Leave Granny and Slackjaw alive. Before the end of the mission, there are two more Runes to find in the sewers of the Old Port District. Believe me, I've tried every proposed workaround. Don't do Granny Rags' quests. . It's easy because she's not hostile to you YET. How to take out Granny Rags non-lethal and unseen. There are two ways to settle the confrontation: either kill/incapacitate Granny Rags or kill Slackjaw. So, if you really want to get Clean Hands with no fuss then either avoid doing things for Granny Rags or use Bend Time to steal the key before booking it to the exit. Is this the sewer mission with slackjaw and granny rags? I had the exact same thing! Clean hands playthrough, killed nobody. Business, Economics, and Finance. After talking to him for the final time, you'll unlock this. The Granny Vs. 1. So I'm replaying dishonored, this time on Very Hard, trying for Ghost, Shadow & Clean Hands. Go pick up the last painting in granny's shack. Apr 10, 2016 @ 6:21am A: yes B: Its optional C: Echo #1. However, I feel like the SlackJaw/ Granny confrontation will mess up my hope of getting Clean Hands. Drop down the hole in the middle to reach it. You completed all the Granny Rags side missions. Then you can do Slackjaw's side missions during mission 2 and get another Rune and access to the non-lethal option for taking out the brothers. Reply Dyalad • Additional comment actions. I accidentally started the Granny Rags one because I walked into the area (Didn't talk to her), but never finished it or any of the others. didn't do the original Granny Rags quest line (i. I'm playing Mission 7: The Flooded District right? And theres the part in the sewers where you have to either help Granny Rags or Slackjaw. . If you try to pick up Slackjaw's corpse, Granny Rags attacks you. Though visually identical, it functions differently; rather than dispensing elixir. The gang is led by Slackjaw, who uses the Dunwall Whiskey Distillery to manufacture bootleg elixir. i used the dishonored wiki to find out more of the lore, granny rags went to addermire institute in 1810 due to insanity, corvo kills her in 1832 (this is the year D1 takes place) by destroying the source. This level is a lot longer than the rest, and the conflict between Granny Rags and Slackjaw can feel a little out of place after the climactic showdown with Daud. The grotto that she has Slackjaw chained up in was closed off and the door that is usually locked for which she has the key, was already unlocked and Weepers in the sewer. Talk to him and he will say. Slackjaw still dies by Granny Rags' hand and you get the blame for it. It was here that he met up with a. I've tried stealing Granny's key, releasing Slackjaw, hiding and waiting for Slackjaw to kill her (he never seems to be able to, even when I burn the cameo). The Granny Rags boss fight really took me by surprise. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. Right near the 4th rune after the granny rags and slackjaw scene. But as I said I know Curnow killing Campbell doesn't count as a kill, and neither does Slackjaw killing Granny Rags count. Such is even the case when she still has her cameo, and each time she is “killed” will count. 76561198023999523 Dec 23, 2012 @ 2:56pm. No need to choose really. Once she respawns. Dishonored. If I replay the entire mission, do I reset my upgrades and whatnot? I currently went on ahead the game. The scene and its dialogue are a throwback to the training mission in Thief Gold (1999), where Garrett is similarly instructed. So I did a second speedy playthrough to unlock Shadow. He confirms. Great bonding moment with Slackjaw too. You have to sleep dart after that. I've tried burning the cameo, stop time, then sleep darting her. It seems I just can't unlock the "Ghost" achievement. Can I still get the Granny Rags part (cooking Slackjaw) during the mission The Flooded District? The last time I've played it I did the ghost. Maybe there's some instances where if you don't KO guys, they're scripted to die off-camera and it gets counted against you? For instances, the two thugs on Kaldwin Bridge who run at the Arc Pylon. Rendering Granny Rags unconcious through choking her out or a sleepdart apparently adds a hidden kill to your score. I think the innocent death is from Slackjaw. the 'corroded man' book confirms that corvo saved slackjaw from granny rags, which if you do in D1, granny rags immediately becomes hostile. He is a wanted man with a large bounty on his head. I followed…Climb up the stairs he descended from and like the previous mission, turn right towards Granny Rags apartment and at the dead end, cut left into the alley. Because there is an option for you to hide, wait for Granny Rags to leave the room, incinerate her cameo, and then sleep dart her. It is possible to steal it, kill/knock out Granny Rags, or kill Slackjaw for the key. Im on the second level where i have to kill Cambell or whatever his name is. #1. She assigns two tasks. You do that by disposing of her cameo, taking care to avoid Granny Rags seeing you if she happens to teleport into the room during the battle. Guys I just found out what to do, first I took the key from granny, then I burned her amulet and I released Slackjaw, he killed Granny and voila, 0kills :) hope this helps. Shiki Yui. Slackjaw seems out for the money, whereas Granny Rags seems out for the crazy evil. So I'm replaying dishonored, this time on Very Hard, trying for Ghost, Shadow & Clean Hands. However, when going for certain achievements, the decision becomes much more complicated, that's all. You can also release Slackjaw, grab him, and carry him away. As soon as you take her present, you will get an achievement: Gentleman Caller. : r/dishonored. . I am playing a no-kill, undetected playthrough. Close the sewer door behind you. Rune, and 600 coins if assisting Slackjaw. I already did 2 consecutive playthroughs, in the first lenghty one the problem might have been the encounter with granny rags and slackjaw, where I poisoned her with a dart but as you might have heard there seems to be a bug there. If Corvo turns Slackjaw hostile or renders him unconscious, the mission will fail for similar reasons. After you have killed all the enemies in the Golden Cat Area, you will need to find the Daud’s Key. Slackjaw Granny Rags Corvo Attano Emily Caldwin Empress Jessamine Caldwin Geoff Curnow Lydia Castilla High Overseer Campbell Hiram Burrows Wallace Samuel Beechworth Delilah Anton Sokolov Pierro Wallace 18. Blink up onto the red pipe, step back a little bit so that you can crouch and uncrouch properly, and lean before trying to get the first Blink (makes it easier). The Granny Rags poisoning mission does most likely add a bit of Chaos. If you still have one kill then it happened before you got to Granny Raggs. Note: Taking Granny's runes is a condition of the achievement. Contributed By: Shotgunnova. The only reason to visit - besides having a backdoor entrance to the Golden Cat brothel - is to fetch an. He, of course, begs you to save him. If Granny sees you after you pickpocket her or attack her, it counts as detected. I didn't even need to confront Granny Rags in the later stages of the game. In stage three, you must complete two missions. . In order for Granny Rags to be killed or rendered unconscious, her cameo must be destroyed. When you encounter Granny Rags and Slackjaw, your only option is to Bend Time and steal the keys off Granny Rags. SPOILER ALERT READ AT OWN RISK! Ok, so I completed the game with "Clean Hands" and "Mostly Flesh and Steel" Achievemnts but I failed "Ghost" because when I tried to pickpocket the Master Sewer Key from Granny Rags she always spots me. this research was not conducted by me, it was done by some people in the "disholnerds speedrunning discord" through thorough research and multiple readings of related lore and "the. Instead of giving me the key, he attacked me, so I killed him. So the second dialog you came across is obviously low chaos. (spoilers if you haven't played the game or gotten far it in) Infecting the bootleg elixir still won't result in kills, even the thugs becoming weepers was linked to you in your end stats, which it isn't, it still wouldn't matter because they don't die, they simply weep. If you do, Granny Rags and Slackjaw will acknowledge that you've done so. You do that by disposing of her cameo, taking care to avoid Granny Rags seeing you if she happens to teleport into the room during the battle. I placed her body on a high surface.